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Rearview mirror in the way. Possible (hi tech) solution

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#1 · (Edited)
This is how much the rearview mirror obstructs my view (when in its highest position!). It obstructs a complete car coming from the right. And pedestrians. As you can see this isn't my original rearview mirror though, it's a dashcam/rearview camera LCD display unit placed in front of the original in the exact same position (for testing if this could work). You can see the original mirrors on/off button at the bottom behind the new one and it's frame sticking out on the left side.

Point is if I move the original mirror even further up with some bracket, due to the rear window being so far down I'll only see the tarmac behind the car and not very far behind the car at all. But with this camera/display mirror I can remove the original mirror completely and place this one as high up as I want, I'll have a perfect view behind me at all times regardless position.

Main test now is to see where to place the camera at the rear. When the rear window gets dirty you have a hard time seeing out with the original mirror, how bad does it get with the camera placed on the inside of the window? Will it get worse faster or slower when the dirt adds up? I only need to clean a small circle on the window for the camera to get a clean view though hehe. I'll also test placing the camera on the outside, right behind the shark fin on the roof. I'm pretty sure it will keep itself clean much much longer there! I'll keep you posted. Now I'll look at how to attach the display/mirror further up, right up against the plastic housing.

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Some feedback on the quality of the display as a mirror. Main issue is the framerate at 30fps, there is a visible 30fps sort of stutter. For me personally it's okay but I'm guessing some would have a harder time with this. The resolution is absolutely good enough IMHO. The rear camera is 1080p but the display is only 320 pixels vertically but I have no problem, I feel I have a better detailed view than with the real mirror which is a bit odd. But my eyesight at the displays distance isn't perfect, my glasses are optimized for what is further away.
 
#10 ·
Bottom line is the person driving is responsible for the vehicle and if they want to improve their view of the road ahead that's their choice. Personally I’ll be spending money on improving the mirror position before throwing money at a “shouty” exhaust or a remap to see if I can test out the Toyota Warranty ?
 
#113 ·
installation 90% finished.
i'm waiting 3D support printed by GR user owner for totaly finish work

i want to say a big thank you to @MagnusT for this idea, feed back and files 3D !!!!
thank you to @Onehp for your support idea ;)

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And differents views with the rearview mirror :
- original
- with extension part
- and with this installation

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#104 ·
Anyone that has asked permission to make these and sell has gotten an okay from me. No kickback/commission or anything. Same with the GoPro GR Yaris headrest mount.

Or get a friend to print it in exchange for a beer

You're welcome :)



Oh, BTW, if anyone wants a special version for the 70mai display/mirror/dashcam that needs to have the camera tilted a bit just say the word. I haven't uploaded it to Thingiverse yet.
 
#8 ·
A little off topic sorry, but that photo also shows how much of a non-issue the MM system display is, in terms of its effect on visibility outside. I think you'd have to be extremely short for it to be a problem (and then the steering wheel would also be in the way!).

Having said that, the screen is plain ugly, and I wish it wasn't there at all, especially as I run with it off most of the time (I'm glad it remembers the "off" setting between starts). I'd rather just use my phone on the rare occasions I need the screen (navigation mainly).
 
#14 ·
This is how much the rearview mirror obstructs my view (when in its highest position!). It obstructs a complete car coming from the right. And pedestrians. As you can see this isn't my original rearview mirror though, it's a dashcam/rearview camera LCD display unit placed in front of the original in the exact same position (for testing if this could work). You can see the original mirrors on/off button at the bottom behind the new one and it's frame sticking out on the left side.

Point is if I move the original mirror even further up with some bracket, due to the rear window being so far down I'll only see the tarmac behind the car and not very far behind the car at all. But with this camera/display mirror I can remove the original mirror completely and place this one as high up as I want, I'll have a perfect view behind me at all times regardless position.

Main test now is to see where to place the camera at the rear. When the rear window gets dirty you have a hard time seeing out with the original mirror, how bad does it get with the camera placed on the inside of the window? Will it get worse faster or slower when the dirt adds up? I only need to clean a small circle on the window for the camera to get a clean view though hehe. I'll also test placing the camera on the outside, right behind the shark fin on the roof. I'm pretty sure it will keep itself clean much much longer there! I'll keep you posted. Now I'll look at how to attach the display/mirror further up, right up against the plastic housing.

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Some feedback on the quality of the display as a mirror. Main issue is the framerate at 30fps, there is a visible 30fps sort of stutter. For me personally it's okay but I'm guessing some would have a harder time with this. The resolution is absolutely good enough IMHO. The rear camera is 1080p but the display is only 320 pixels vertically but I have no problem, I feel I have a better detailed view than with the real mirror which is a bit odd. But my eyesight at the displays distance isn't perfect, my glasses are optimized for what is further away.
To be fair I don't know how it got through type approval in the image it blocks out view of pedestrians crossing road.
 
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#27 ·
Obviously all depends on what mirror you buy, there are lots and lots of different models with different specifications. Not sure if mine autodims but in lit tunnels it worked well. Didn't react to it being too bright, not yet anyway. There is not much of noticeable delay but the 30fps framerate will probably annoy some but is okay for me. But it would have been nice with 60fps.
 
#86 ·
Double sided tape (I use a thin vowen one for carpeting) Has stuck through multiple automatic car washes ?

There are just a few rear cameras that seem to be used by most of the different display units. Often the different 720/1080/4K front camera models use the same rear camera.

On my car with the front camera on the left there is a sensor on the windshield partly obstructing the view. It works but it is in the frame.