What system have you got - the JBL or non branded?

You want speakers with a high sensitivity rating if you don't want to add amps. I've used Focal splits and JBL splits in the past off factory head units. (Noting the JBL speakers from Toyota look and sound nothing like the quality of their aftermarket speakers!)

 

I got them out for deadening purposes but didn't measure them up - these are the JBL speakers, marked up as J6.

Im really interested in this question too. While the front setup sounds fine and there is plenty of bass, my rear speakers legit sound like they are broken tin cans when you push the fader all the way to the rear. Does anyone else get that on the JBL or standard Toyota setup?

 

If you're running the standard head unit, watch out for the impedance of the new speakers. Lower impedance will be louder than the originals, but will draw more power out of the standard amp than designed, potentially overheating or burning it out.

Source: I did this on my first car ?‍♂

 

https://auto-hasler-nuernberg.de/audioumbau/

I bought this kit, when it arrives I will share info on it.

 

This kit comes with proper speakers but does not have plug and play connectors.

As I would like to turn it back to stock if needed it is not the best solution.

Has anyone found adapters that could make them plug n play?

 

Rear speakers on a Circuit pack are horrible. Turned my all way down.

 

I took the door card off, here's a perfect howto video someone posted earlier

 

I'll give this one a shot. Stated to fit Toyota but not specifically GR Yaris 2020-

https://www.amazon.se/gp/product/B019W943Z2/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

To replace the rears?

 

No, for the doors and A-pillars

Probably worth upgrading the rears if you don't have a sub and can use them to support the fronts on that a little bit. But I've installed the under seat sub so there's no urgency on the bass situation But it might be a way to get rid of the sub....

 

I would be interested in the weight when all the boxes are out. Nobody needs it.

 

I plan on very carefully taking all the JBL speakers out, placing them delicately on a piece of plastic at the rear of my GRY then reversing over them. Krap !

 

Yes, it's a very disappointing system. The speakers sound like rubbish cheapies.

 

Maybe that's interesting for a few of you.
There's a German Toyota dealership selling upgrade kits for the sound system.
On the bottom of the page they do mention the technical details like diameter, impedance and resistance.
https://auto-hasler-nuernberg.de/audioumbau/
They mention it works with the original amp.

 

I just installed the Focal system IS TOY 165 for Toyotas. A really good improvement in the bass region, going lower down in frequency also. Better resolution from the treble speakers. Midrange can possibly be a matter of taste, the frequency response is quite different, an improvement to my ears. But YMMV depending on taste.

Very easy to swap out, proper connector adaptors included and everything just slotted in place (apart from one simple issue where I had to remove half a mm of plastic in two small places on the bass speaker's outer rims, easy peasy)

 

I just installed the Focal system IS TOY 165 for Toyotas. A really good improvement in the bass region, going lower down in frequency also. Better resolution from the treble speakers. Midrange can possibly be a matter of taste, the frequency response is quite different, an improvement to my ears. But YMMV depending on taste.

Very easy to swap out, proper connector adaptors included and everything just slotted in place (apart from one simple issue where I had to remove half a mm of plastic in two small places on the bass speaker's outer rims, easy peasy)

Thanks @MagnusT. That's been very helpful. Can I ask, did you just change the front speakers, or rear too? Any suggestions on setup to change the whole lot?

 

If you are going to change the speakers watch a video how to remove the door panels (I posted one earlier in this thread).

But a must watch is how to put back the A-pillar cover, it has a very special clip at the top (due to side curtain air bags) that is hard to figure out, with this video's help it takes less than five minutes to swap out the treble speaker ?

 

Took a friend out in my circuit pack today and he commented how good the sound system is. Maybe for people who are used to top of the range systems in BMW's this doesn't measure up? It's weird how some people are saying they think the system is quite good and other's say it's awful. When I had a gt86 every owner universally agreed the system was awful. I can say for sure the system in the yaris is way way better than what we got in the gt86.

 

Took a friend out in my circuit pack today and he commented how good the sound system is. Maybe for people who are used to top of the range systems in BMW's this doesn't measure up? It's weird how some people are saying they think the system is quite good and other's say it's awful.

Spot on.

 

Just the front system (doors and A-pillars) But I was impressed of how these sounded by themselves when I just tested turning off my under seat sub, so I think I'll check to maybe swap the rears to supplement bass, to maybe remove the sub. Maaaaaybe. There might be a problem though, the rear speakers might have the bass slightly cut in the amplifier/head unit. Not sure but I got that feeling when testing the audio signals going into the anc/ese amplifier.

 

Gotcha, thanks bud. What under seat subs did you get? Any suggestion and build guide? I have removed the rear seats so could technically fit a big box in the back... but that might be a bit overkill, and maybe too wild.

 

An Alpine, there is a thread I did with all info on where and how to connect an active sub. It has pictures and connector pinouts and so on, search the forum for Alpine and sub or something, should get you there ?

 

So much grief. Years ago we just had an mdf rear parcel shelf made and had 2 x 12" subs, usually either Pioneer or Kenwood, a nice big boot mounted amp and a nice head unit, again either Pioneer, Kenwood or sometimes Blaupunkt. If there was money left over we'd add a nice graphic equaliser also ??

 

Back in my day moment?
Remember them well?

 

If anyone wonders what the rear speakers look like and how they're mounted:

I had this apart when I added sound dampening to lower road noise from the tyres at the rear.

 

If anyone wonders what the rear speakers look like and how they're mounted:

I had this apart when I added sound dampening to lower road noise from the tyres at the rear.

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Focal Inside series for Toyota looks interesting as an upgrade. The kits are the same for CHr and Yaris and the blurb says that Toyota use global std 6.5 and 6*9 speaker patterns for all their vehicles. Given that the IS TOY front components fit the GR, it might just follow that the othe Yaris/CHR bits will pop straight into CP cars?

TOYOTA INSIDE SERIES

from these kits, it looks like the

Focal Car Audio ICTOY165 INTEGRATION Dedicated 165mm Coaxial Kit - Toyota
£119.99

would drop into rear space nicely. Integrated passive. XOs. At that price not much to lose.

FOCAL INSIDE PREMIUM 6.2
The system is composed of a two-way component kit IS TOY 165, a two-way coaxial kit IC TOY 165 and 2 ultracompact subwoofersISUB TWIN.

FOCAL INSIDE PREMIUM 4.1
The system is composed of a two-way component kit IS TOY 165 and
a subwoofer IBUS 2.1.*

 

Thanks @Mainframe, great stuff!

Safe to say that the Focal Inside Comfort are a proper plug'n'play replacement for competition specced GRs, without upgraded soundsystem?

 

I am going to email Focal France to check. But if the sizes and mountings are same in chr, Yaris, it sort of follows that the GR would have taken stock oem sized abs mountings. The speaker impedance and efficiency ratings are meant to connect to non premium Chr abs Yaris, although there is an amp option that uses head pre amp.

looks like straight forward install too.

I may go for this with f/r replacements then add twin underwear subs, as a stepping stone. Although am hankering after a Dsp set up.

 

A warning.

I swapped to the Toyota Focal speaker kit some time ago. Bass vastly improved, treble more refined. But midrange wasn't flat. After fiddling I've come to the conclusion that the head unit has a quite tweaked frequency response MATCHING the OEM speakers by compensating the OEM speakers flawed frequency response (by raising to compensate a dip around 1kHz for example). When swapping to speakers with a more flat frequency response the head unit messes this up by still raising around 1kHz with a significant amount.


So I had to get an EQ in some way. Solved that with an Alpine under seat sub with built in DSP for all speakers. But will take a bit of tweaking....

 

A warning.

I swapped to the Toyota Focal speaker kit some time ago. Bass vastly improved, treble more refined. But midrange wasn't flat. After fiddling I've come to the conclusion that the head unit has a quite tweaked frequency response MATCHING the OEM speakers by compensating the OEM speakers flawed frequency response (by raising to compensate a dip around 1kHz for example). When swapping to speakers with a more flat frequency response the head unit messes this up by still raising around 1kHz with a significant amount.

So I had to get an EQ in some way. Solved that with an Alpine under seat sub with built in DSP for all speakers. But will take a bit of tweaking....

Bought the Eton kit from Hasler but I really do not like to cut the original wiring.

So I bought the Focal kit aswell to use as tweeters from there and speakers in the doors and might use the Eton main speakers in the rear.

Will the head unit take it?

 

is there a simple tried/tested speaker set up for the car that anyone in the UK has done so far?

 

I think focal seems to be the way folks go. Tho I've seen other, albeit more expensive solutions:

 

Warning #2;

This doesn't matter equally as much because the workaround is easy. But I just found that theToyota head unit has built in DSP and has built in delay turned on for the speakers (left front verified). So do NOT add delay in your after market DSP when playing music from the Toyota head unit. Then you get double delay and sound stage goes bananas ?

 

Standard speaker size for Toyota is 16cm in the front doors (17cm for JBL), rear speakers are 16 or 14 cm, that depends on the car.
Tweeters are 3cm (JBL can go up to 8cm)
Fixation holes in the doors are also standard for all Toyota's.

 

Not sure if relevant, but it might help someone.

You can get 17cm all round with no issue if you are replacing with aftermarket speakers (and custom mounts - making mounts for the GR is quite easy)

 

My worries with the speakers dont want to end. ?

Eton speakers from Hasler were not direct fit so I bought a new Focal IS 165 Toy kit. What arrived is almost the same but French variant with code FI PCT 165-4. Tweeters connect fine but the main speakers are not with the same plug as Toyota and the housing has to be modified slightly to fit the mounting points.

Those who have fitted the 165 Toy - is it plug and play with correct connectors?

 

Yes, adapters included

But as said before, you need to add an EQ to benefit the improved speakers in the midrange. Bass and treble sounds improved without an EQ (although deep bass is cut from the head unit but pretty low down). But midrange gets kinda odd without a proper multi band EQ.

This is what the Circuit Pack Head unit will play in to your speakers: